4/27/08

The Flagged Craigs List Postings

I was trying to be very fair when I posted listings looking for information about Karon Shey model management, John Wood or Richard Bertone. These are the listings that were flagged or removed by someone who didn't want you to see the information or responses I have received. Check them out and tell me what you think.



  1. Hello Recently I have posted a request for info regarding Karen Shea Model Management In Worcester Mass in regards to her agency, Talent Manager John Wood, or Richard Bertone. Thank you all that have replied I have compiled a list of reply s that I have received. I will gladly send you them if you are interested. There is not much info out there when doing research. In my group audition with John Wood he said " Check us Out!!!" So I did. I think this important 3rd party information you need to see before you sign on the dotted line. Remember knowledge is not power, applied knowledge is power! I'm so thankful to everybody that participated it is very interesting and valuable info. I have edited out names, numbers and email address so everybody can remain anomomous


  1. Hello all if you would like to read the postings I have received about Karen Shea Model Management please go to www.renegadeblogspot.blogspot.com I have received so many requests for this I felt it would be easier just to post them on my new blog.If you feel inclined please post your experiences both good and bad so that everyone can be on the same page. THANKS A MILLION FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT


  1. Hello I am looking for Budding actors or actresses who have been or felt they have been lied to or scammed by local "Talent Agencies" In the Worcester Boston Area, Share your horror stories to prevent them from happening any longer! This is a non paid project, however getting to vent about or brag about your experience will be helpful for everyone. By doing this we will run the scum bags out and make room for truly good ones. Its time we ban together and call them out. Thank you for your help.

  1. KNOCK ON WOOD YOU OPENED THIS AD IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO READ INFO ABOUT A TALENT AGENCY IN MASS, BEFORE YOU SIGN $800.00 DOLLARS AWAY RESPOND TO THIS POSTING. YOU REALLY NEED TO READ WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID. TO MAKE A TRULY INFORMED DECESION


  1. BEFORE YOU SIGN ON THE DOTTED LINE YOU NEED TO KNOW WHAT OTHERS HAVE TOLD ME ABOUT LOCAL TALENT AGENCIES HERE IN THE COMMONWEALTH, SO FAR TOGETHER WE HELPED SAVE ROUGHLY $4500.00 DOLLARS LETS KEEP IT GOING.

  1. Hello I looking for anybody who HAS SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY ABOUT Karon Shay or John Wood from Karen Shay Model Management located in Worcester Ma. A story on how they helped your career and brought it to the next level or you felt that John was amazing at getting you work. Or how about You just think that they are in it for all the right reasons. Please can anybody tell me that kind of story!!!!


  1. I recently received an email threating legal action From a certain agency that I have been inquiring about she states that I am lieing about her. Does anybody have ANYTHING NICE to say about Karen Shey or her company including John Wood or Richard Bertone, Anything at all. I'm still also looking for any information I can get as well regarding your experiences. Here is a copy of her email I was sent

    "This is Karon Shea and I would like to let you know that my attorney #### ###### will be contacting you along with the District Attorney's office. The information you have written about us is absolutly false. We have been here in Massachusetts for over 30 years. I have an IT guys tracing the computer that is posting these statments and you will be prosecuted!"

    Karon Shea
    Owner
    Karon Shea Model Management

How to spot the SCAM

Modeling/Talent Agency Scams

The following is based upon a brochure produced and distributed by the Federal Trade Commission, Office of Consumer/Business Education, Bureau of Consumer Protection. The word "talent" has been added to the original brochure text because modeling and talent (usually meaning acting) scams are similar.

How The Scam Works

The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) recently brought a case against a modeling agency that placed ads in newspapers to encourage potential models, both men and women, to meet company representatives for group screenings. Many of the newpaper ads stated, "No Fee." At follow-up interviews, however, the selected applicants were asked to sign a contract agreeing to participate in classes and to pay more than $1,000 in advance for photographs that were required before they could work as models. In the end, most of the would-be-models received no photographs and no job leads. The company simply packed up and left town.

How To Spot The Scam

It may not be easy to recognize a modeling/talent scam because many of the advertising claims and practices may resemble those used by legitimate talent agencies. However, listed below are some common advertising claims that should make you suspicious:

"No Fee"

If a modeling/talent agency advertises that there is no fee for its services, you should be wary any time you are asked to pay. Most legitimate agencies make money only by taking a commission from their talents' work. An exception, however, is that you may be charged for your picture to be in an agency book that they send to clients who hire models and actors. Make sure you pay only your portion of the printing costs. Also, ask to see a copy of the agency book before you pay any money.

"Earn High Salaries"

Only experienced, top models and actors can expect to receive large salaries.

"Work Full or Part Time"

The hours of a model and actor is uneven and sporadic. You will not have the flexibility to choose your own hours.

"Real-People Types Should Apply"

Some ads encourage people of all shapes, sizes, and ages to apply for commercial modeling/talent work that involves the sale of a product. Opportunities do exist for 'real people' talent, but they are rare.

Watch Out For...

Since it may be difficult to recognize a modeling/talent agency scam only from their advertising claims, watch out for agencies that:

  • Charge you money to take their classes before you are eligible for modeling or acting work.
  • A legitimate modeling/talent agency may provide instruction on applying makeup or walking, but most do not charge you for classes. An exception to this is when a modeling/talent agency also serves as a modeling/acting school. A modeling/acting school does charge for classes, but that is a separate function from finding you work as a model/actor.
  • Conduct an unprofessional photo shoot.
    Once a modeling/talent agency agrees to represent you, you will need photographs for your portfolio. In the larger modeling/talent markets, such as New York or Los Angeles, the photographs typically are taken in separate photo sessions, each using differenct clothing, makeup, and hairstyles. And often a model's portfolio is put together with photographs from more than one photographer. In smaller markets, all photographs may be shot in one session by one photographer, but you should still look different in all your photographs by wearing a variety of cosmetics, clothes, and hairstyles.
  • Require a particular photographer.
    If the modeling/talent agency requires you to work with a particular photographer, chances are the photographer is working with the modeling/talent agency and they are splitting the fee. A legitimate modeling/talent agency may recommend that you work with a certain photographer, but be skeptical if they are insistent.

How To Protect Yourself

The best protection against losing money to a phony modeling/talent agency is to take precautions. The following list may help you reduce your chances of losing money:

  • Realistically assess your chances for being a model/actor. Ask yourself: "Was I chosen because they believe I can make money for them - or just because I can afford to pay money to them?"
  • Check out all claims made in agency advertisments, sales presentations, and literature. For example, if they say they are the largest modeling/talent agency in the country, contact other modeling/talent agencies and ask if this is true.
  • Ask for the names, addresses, and phone numbers of models or actors who work through the agency and clients who have used its models or actors. Contact the models or actors and clients to verify the information.
  • Ask if the agency is licensed or bonded as an employment agency, if that is required by your state. You local consumer protection agency can answer this question or direct you to the proper agency to get an answer.
  • Keep copies of all important papers, such as your contract and agency literature. Be sure to get all verbal promises in writing. You may need these if you have a dispute with the agency.
  • If you cannot verify the agency's credentials and the agency is asking for money in advance, you may be better off saying 'No.'

Where To Go For Help

If you have paid money to modeling/talent agency, and believe they are involved in a scam, first contact the company and request a refund. If you are not satisfied, register a complaint with your local consumer protection agency, Better Business Bureau, and state Attorney General's office. Also, contact the advertising manager of the newspaper that ran the ad you answered. For ethical and practical reasons, the advertising manager may be interested to learn about any problems you have had with the agency.

You should also write the Federal Trade Commission, Washington, DC 20580. Although the FTC cannot represent you directly in a dispute with a company, if the Commission finds evidence of a pattern of deceptive or unfair practices, it can take action.

The Federal Trade Commission has regional offices in the following cities. Check your phone book for the most current address and phone of the office nearest you.

  • Atlanta, GA
  • Boston, MA
  • Chicago, IL
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Dallas, TX
  • Denver, CO
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • New York, NY
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Seattle, WA

The main office of the Federal Trade Commission is in Washington, DC.

4/25/08

The Original Add On CL that I responded to

This was the original add I responded to.


Avoid scams and fraud by dealing locally!
Beware any deal involving Western Union, Moneygram, wire transfer, cashier check, money order, shipping, escrow, or any promise of transaction protection/certification/guarantee. More info

IMTA OPEN CALL (Boston)


Reply to: see below
Date: 2008-04-04, 10:21AM EDT


International Modeling and Talent Association (IMTA) is coming from NY to Boston

A few of IMTA discoveries are Ashton Kutcher, Eva Longoria, Katie Holmes, Elijah Wood, and many more.

Auditions are now being held for ages 4 to 58.

All ethnicities and sizes are encouraged to audition. No experience nec.

Call (617) 710-7510 for audition dates and times. (Notice the Phone number)




PostingID: 629909715

NOW NOTICE THE PHONE NUMBER IN THE FOLLOWING BELOW, COPIED DIRECTLY FROM HER WEB SITE 4/25/08 AT 9:55 PM

Karon Shea Model Management


Parents of children ages five and older- You would need to contact John Wood, Karon Shea Model Management’s new talent coordinator. John is available at (617) 710-7510. (NOTICE THE PHONE NUMBER ITS THE SAME, COULD IT BE THAT THE SAME JOHN WOOD WORKS AT BOTH)

My experience with Karon Shey and John Wood at Karon Shey Model Management

So I guess I should explain why I am trying to let public know so furiously about Karen Shay's agency, and John Wood. Here is my experience. I found an add on Craig's List which stated...

International Modeling and Talent Association (IMTA) is coming from NY to Boston
A few of IMTA discoveries are Ashton Kutcher, Eva Longoria, Katie Holmes, Elijah Wood, and many more,etc, etc, etc. see previous posting for complete entry. So of course I responded, not expecting much...but then it happened, the phone rang and it was John Wood. He asked me if I had a few moments to talk, he stated that I had advantage because of my age; I'm 39. He stated that since the Hollywood Studios were coming to Mass he came from LA 6 months ago to help grow the business out here. He said that for some reason white males in age range were in high demand and was wondering if I would come to a meeting with other men in my age range and meet with him in an informal meeting. He then asked if I could bring a head shot with me. I told him I did not have one and he simply said don't worry there wont be many of you here, I wont forget your face.

Tuesday came and I was so very excited, I was going to meet a real casting director who had a hand in discovering some pretty famous A LIST CELEBRITIES. Could I be the next big break out star, well I would soon find out. As I got closer I checked the address that he had given me 65 Water Street there it was. I arrived, parked my car and looked for the entrance. The building was not what I expected It looks like a run down project that should be condemned. I didn't see a sign for IMTA but I did see a sign that read Karen Shea Model Management. Now I was confused. So Confused I forgot where I was. Thank God I saw someone standing outside, that I could ask for instructions. As I approached him I said "excuse me is this 65 water street" the man replied yes. I said I'm looking for, it was at that moment I forgot who I was there to meet, he said "JOHN WOOD" I said yes, He extended his hand and said "I'm John Wood" we shook hands and he said Ill meet you inside.

This was lie number 1 I thought I was meeting with IMTA, but in reality I was meeting with The Karen Shea Modeling agency. I took a mental note but it really didn't matter at this point I was getting ready to meet with a real live casting agent. TO BE CONTINUED

4/24/08

Now Karon Shea is mad and wants to take me to court over what I was told

I GUESS I (WE) RATTLED HER AND JOHNS CAGE , PLEASE READ THE EMAIL THAT SHE SENT ME.. I THINK ITS INTERESTING, I JUST CANT FIGURE OUT IF SHES MORE MAD AT ME OR THAT SHE WAS FOUND OUT...SHE CALLS ME A LIAR YET I'M JUST POSTING PEOPLES RESPONSES... THINGS THAT MAKE YOU GO MMMM. IT ALSO AMAZES ME THAT EVERY TIME I ASK FOR POSITIVE FEED BACK ON CL IT KEEPS GETTING FLAGGED AND PULLED. ON A SIDE NOTE SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT MY POSTING BUT DIDN'T FLAG IT.


Tthis is Karon Shea and I would like to let you know that my attorney Paul Shannon will be contacting you along with the District Attorney's office. The information you have written about us is absolutly false. We have been here in Massachusetts for over 30 years. I have an IT guys tracing the computer that is posting these statments and you will be prosecuted!

My response
Hello Karen, Thats fine, Please tell me what laws I broke! Second You may have a good view of yourself, however the information I have posted comes form responses I have received. I did exactly what John and you told me and others to "check us Out" Well I did . I did not make up anything nor post false statements I did say that I agree with the statements posted! I guess it sucks when the truth comes out. Ironically I did ask for positive feed back just didnt really happen to get any. By the way I notice that John Woods Information is off your web site.. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm! Have a great day

She wants to sue me

This is a copy of an email I received from Mrs Shea today, I think we rattled her cage just a bit. Is she mad at me or the fact that her and John Got Busted, you decide see the add then read my response

** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


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** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


This is Karon Shea and I would like to let you know that my attorney Paul Shannon will be contacting you along with the District Attorney's office. The information you have written about us is absolutely false. We have been here in Massachusetts for over 30 years. I have an IT guys tracing the computer that is posting these statements and you will be prosecuted!
Karon Shea
Owner
Karon Shea Model Management



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Hello Karen, That's fine, Please tell me what laws I broke! Second You may have a good view of yourself, however the information I have posted comes form responses I have received. I did exactly what John and you told me and others to "check us Out" Well I did . I did not make up anything nor post false statements I did say that I agree with the statements posted! I guess it sucks when the truth comes out. Ironically I did ask for positive feed back just didn't really happen to get any. By the way I notice that John Woods Information is off your web site.. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm! Have a great day


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On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Karon Shea <karon@ksmmonline.com> wrote:
** CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY DEALING LOCALLY
** Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals, work-at-home
** Beware: cashier checks, money orders, escrow, shipping
** More Info: http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html


This is Karon Shea and I would like to let you know that my attorney Paul Shannon will be contacting you along with the District Attorney's office. The information you have written about us is absolutely false. We have been here in Massachusetts for over 30 years. I have an IT guys tracing the computer that is posting these statement's and you will be prosecuted!
Karon Shea
Owner
Karon Shea Model Management



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4/17/08

A Shey D Deal

I recently made this posting on Craig's List, I was truly amazed at the responses that I have received. I had so many requests for the responses I received i decided to post them here enjoy

PLEASE LET IT BE KNOWN THAT I CANT CONFORM THEM TO BE TRUE OR NOT; HOWEVER I CAN SAY THAT, I WILL NOT BE SIGNING WITH THEM, AND MY FEELINGS ARE THE SAME AS THOSE EXPRESSED. THE RESPONSES ARE POSTED BELOW MY AD. IN ALL FAIRNESS I WILL BE POSTING BOTH GOOD AND BAD COMMENTS, VIEWS AND COMPLAINTS. I WOULD HOPE PEOPLE WILL COME FORWARD WITH SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SAY.

I'm looking for Information on a Worcester Talent Agent



Reply to: mailto:gigs-645546194@craigslist.org?subject=Im%20looking%20for%20Information%20on%20a%20Worcester%20Talent%20Agent
Date: 2008-04-17, 9:00AM EDT


Hello all, I writing to see if anybody has any history with Karon Shea Model Management, John Wood or the photographer they use named Richard Bertone. I'm not seeing much out there and want to see if they are legit. Also, if you have how much work have you received from the above mentioned. I'm very curious to hear your replies before I give them any hard earned money. Thank you for your help in this matter.

I have had some great response however a few more thoughts on this subject would be helpful; what were your told, what were you promised and most importantly after you spent money how proactive were they in helping you achieve your goals and dreams.

Please remember to your best judgment when it comes to spending your hard earned money.

  I WISH THERE WAS MORE POSITIVE RESPONSES TO MY REQUESTS!!!!!

DUE TO THE AMOUNT OF RESPONSES I HAVE RECEIVED YOU CAN READ THEM ALL IN THE COMMENT SECTION COMMENT #6